| whether the downforce that wing provides at 40 is more than offset by the drag created by it... Good point; make it your main one. If you work with that, I'll have to concede defeat. But my underlying point is that 99% of the "aero" on ricer cars on the street are not actually tuned and installed to provide actual benefits. Not a good point. You are making it up. Just about every available wing will provide downforce, and many allow tuning by the user. It is easy to improve the aero of a street car without even trying hard, and most people won't need the extra-fine tuning of a wind tunnel on their car. Adding a wing will almost always provide improvement. Also, if you need the help of a giant wing to provide stability for street use, then either you're driving irresponsibly, or the car has other issues. It's on a street car, but the wing is not necessarily for street use. For autoX for instance, or the occasional track day. Or for highway interchanges; I know I get on the gas for those. So here is my underlying point: wings are not to your taste, but there is no need for you to justify your opinon by making up disadvantages to their use. Be a man, stand by your opinion without making up "facts" to back it up. Incidentally, some people have shutters on their houses. They are supposed to actually shut so as to protect and shade the window by covering it, but I don't think any of them in the US do anymore. (They still do in Italy.) Instead, they exist for style, decor, accent, whatever you want to call it. Yet there is no backlash against them. What would be the point? Or how about those chandeliers with lights shaped like candle flames; they escape without comment. Yet people get their panties in a bunch over LED window washers and fake intercooler holes...ok. But in the end, aero wings are still on a different level -- they actually do something.
- John
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